Meghan Markle

Meghan's comment that she was told South Africans "rejoiced in the streets" over her marriage comparing it to Mandela's release from prison has been ...

The podcast's second episode released on Tuesday featured [ special guest Mariah Carey ](https://www.newsweek.com/mariah-carey-meghan-markle-diva-moments-podcast-archetypes-1738058)and looked at the word "diva" and how it is applied to women today. Following the event, Ndaba Mandela, another of the statesman's grandsons, said that the Sussexes and his grandfather's pursuits of "freedom" were "two worlds apart." "And maybe for them, it was a real struggle to finally make that decision number one and to also be able to carry out. So It cannot be equated to as the same." Recounting how the cast member from South Africa pulled her aside during the event, Meghan said: "He looked at me, and he's just like light. Harry was criticized following the premiere for appearing to tell then-Disney CEO Bob Iger that Meghan would be interested in undertaking voiceover work with the studio. Those are obviously two worlds apart." During the interview conducted by journalist Allison P. "I just had Archie. [accompanied her husband Harry](https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-markle-replicates-royal-fashion-united-nations-visit-1725913) to the [United Nations](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/united-nations) in July where he delivered a [keynote address honoring Nelson Mandela International Day](https://www.newsweek.com/what-prince-harry-said-un-speech-remarks-full-1726266). [Meghan Markle](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/meghan-markle) in a [recent magazine interview](https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-markle-talks-about-upsetting-hierarchy-new-interview-1737724) has been criticized by Nelson Mandela's grandson for comparing the celebrations in South Africa for the marriage of Meghan to [Prince Harry](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/prince-harry) to those held in 1990 to mark the release of Mandela from prison. [Congress](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/congress), told the MailOnline on Tuesday that the celebrations of the royal wedding and those marking Mandela's freedom from his 27-year-long political imprisonment "cannot be equated to as the same."

Meghan Markle, the Duchess of Sussex, says that “just by existing,” she and her husband Prince Harry “upset the dynamic of the hierarchy” when they were in ...

In a bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey last year, Meghan spoke about racism within the monarchy and Harry said Charles had stopped taking his calls. in early 2020, citing what they said were the unbearable intrusions and racist attitudes of the British media. “But it takes a lot of effort to forgive. It takes a lot more energy to not forgive,” she said. She also referred to Harry’s strained ties with his father, Prince Charles. In the interview published Monday, the duchess said it’s not easy to “forgive” when asked if there was room for forgiveness between her, Britain’s royal family and her own family.

Meghan Markle and Mariah Carey discussed being labeled a “diva” on the new episode of the Archetypes podcast and the Duchess of Sussex also explained that ...

You're not treated as a white woman. And her response was her saying, ‘Well, your experience through the world is how people view you.’ So she said because she was darker in color, she was being treated as a Black woman, not as a mixed woman.” You're not treated as a Black woman. Someone kind of looks like me.’” She added, “I had read this article about Halle Berry, and they were asking her how she felt being treated as a mixed-race woman in the world. But when you are a woman and you don't see a woman who looks like you somewhere in a position of power or influence, or even just on the screen—because we know how influential media is—you came onto the scene, I was like ‘Oh, my gosh. Meghan also identified with that experience, adding that even more than her music, she wanted to speak to Carey because of how important it was to her to see a famous biracial woman growing up.

In the second installment of Meghan Markle's Spotify podcast, 'Archetypes,' Markle spoke to Mariah Carey about the word “Diva” and being biracial, ...

But I heard it as a dig.” “Then I started to understand what it was like to be treated like a Black woman. “That’s an interesting thing — a mixed woman,” Carey responded. And her response was her saying, ‘Well, your experience through the world is how people view you.’ So, she said because she was darker in color, she was being treated as a Black woman, not as a mixed woman.” “You’re not treated as a Black woman. Because up until then, I had been treated as a mixed woman.

Meghan Markle talks about the word 'diva' with Mariah Carey on an episode of Markle's Spotify podcast, 'Archetypes.' They also discuss growing up mixed race ...

It’s not okay for you to be a strong woman.” Carey says she “always felt other,” so she “wanted to be that glamorous because I felt like an ugly little girl because I did not fit in with anybody.” “People, people, strive for divadom,” Carey provides as a diva affirmation. But in that moment, as she explained to me, she meant it as chic, as aspirational. “She meant diva as a compliment,” she continues. I heard it as the word diva as I think of it. “But I heard it as a dig. “You couldn’t see me, obviously, but I, I started to sweat a little bit,” she says near the end of the episode.

Meghan Markle welcomed Mariah Carey to her "Archetypes" podcast Tuesday, and the two biracial stars discussed the difficulties of having natural hair in ...

“She meant diva as a compliment, but I heard it as a dig. “She must have felt my nervous laughter, and … “You have no luxury of being tender-headed.” 12 And my hair would be like, ‘You’re not doing that!'” because there was also this ambiguity about me, racially, that fed into that, and those curls.”

The Duchess of Sussex interviewed Mariah Carey for her Spotify podcast, "Archetypes." In the episode, the women discuss the word "diva."

Then I started to understand what it was like to be treated like a Black woman," she added. The couple [stepped back ](https://www.insider.com/prince-harry-meghan-queen-jubilee-scrutiny-public-reaction-2022-6)from their roles as working royals and relocated to Santa Barbara, California, where they currently live with their two children. Next week's episode will feature a conversation with actress Mindy Kaling, another press release states. "I started to sweat a little, I started squirming in my chair in this quiet revolt... "You're not treated as a Black woman. You're not treated as a white woman. "Let's pretend that you weren't so beautiful, and didn't have the whole thing, and didn't have gorgeous ensembles, you maybe wouldn't get as much diva stuff," Carey said. "Because up until then, I had been treated like a mixed woman. I just kept thinking in that moment, 'Was my girl crush coming to a quick demise? "It was all going swimmingly, really well, until that moment happened... ["Archetypes" podcast on Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/show/6UfyXZgVAUX1UzF8j5L72t), which aired on Tuesday. - Markle said she was reassured when Carey said the word was in reference to her clothing.

In a new cover story for The Cut, Meghan Markle shared upcoming guests for her podcast “Archetypes.” Earlier this month, the Duchess of Sussex sat down with ...

“You tell me how that makes sense and then I’ll play that game.” “And I really define myself as someone that’s super understanding. “I define myself as I’m Serena.

Meghan Markle's Archetypes podcast featured Mariah Carey on an Aug. 30 episode dissecting the "diva" label and touched on their experiences as.

You're not treated as a white woman. You're not treated as a Black woman. In a world where you're the mixed kid of a full-on white neighbourhood, that's what you get." Her next guest will be [Mindy Kaling](https://www.popsugar.co.uk/Mindy-Kaling), and [Issa Rae](https://www.popsugar.co.uk/Issa-Rae), [Constance Wu](https://www.popsugar.co.uk/Constance-Wu), [Lisa Ling](https://www.popsugar.co.uk/tag/Lisa-Ling), [Margaret Cho](https://www.popsugar.co.uk/tag/Margaret-Cho), and Ziwe will join in future episodes. . . Representation matters so much," the Duchess said. "You were so formative for me. "I remember being in school in this predominantly white neighbourhood where my mom felt comfortable, and I tried my best to feel comfortable," Carey, whose mother Patricia is white and late father Alfred was Black, continued. And her response was her saying, 'Well, your experience through the world is how people view you.' So she said because she was darker in colour, she was being treated as a Black woman, not as a mixed woman." "I didn't fit in anywhere at all," Carey recalled of her childhood, with Markle noting for listeners that the singer "grew up poor in a mixed race family when interracial marriages were pretty rare in the US." 30), the Spotify audio series featured pop icon [Mariah Carey](https://www.popsugar.co.uk/Mariah-Carey) as the Duchess of Sussex's second guest, whom she [interviewed](https://open.spotify.com/episode/6S3Y5mKB9nJAk6wvZdbVo8?si=lRw6aFLAQYuAWkuNlXEWJg) about the "duality of diva" and negative connotations that come with the label. [Meghan Markle](https://www.popsugar.co.uk/Meghan-Markle)'s " [Archetypes](https://www.popsugar.co.uk/entertainment/meghan-markle-archewell-spotify-podcast-48757024)" podcast isn't shying away from important and challenging conversations about being a women, race, and culture.

Up until then, I had been treated like a mixed woman, and things really shifted.”

“Neither here nor there / Always somewhat out of place everywhere / Ambiguous / Without a sense of belonging to touch / Somewhere halfway / Feeling there's no one completely the same. “Yet when your ethnicity is black and white, the dichotomy is not that clear. “They want to put you in a box and categorize you.” “I was reading this article about Halle Berry, and they were asking her how she felt being treated as a mixed-race woman in the world, and her response was [that] your experience through the world is how people view you. “If there’s any time in my life that it’s been more focused on my race, it’s only once I dated my husband,” Meghan said. “To describe something as being black and white means it is clearly defined,” she wrote.

Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, revealed the power of representation in her life on the second episode of her Spotify podcast, "Archetypes," with guest Mariah ...

"She meant diva as a compliment, but I heard it as a dig," the duchess continued. "She must have felt my nervous laughter, and … [Mindy Kaling](https://www.today.com/parents/moms/mindy-kaling-daughter-katherine-stargazing-party-mom-bj-novak-rcna45238) will be next week's guest, according to Spotify. “I just kept thinking, in that moment, was my girl crush coming to a quick demise? "I always thought it should be OK to say I'm mixed," Carey responded. "Then I started to understand what it was like to be treated like a Black woman. Do you see me right now?" “I started squirming in my chair in this quiet revolt, like, wait, wait, no, what? "Like, it should be OK to say that. Someone kind of looks like me,'" Meghan continued. "You're not treated as a Black woman. You're not treated as a white woman.

The Duchess of Sussex recounted how she was told South Africans 'rejoiced in the streets' when she married Prince Harry.

“Harry said to me, ‘I lost my dad in this process’. [Terms of use,](https://www.independent.co.uk/service/user-policies-a6184151.html) [Cookie policy](https://www.independent.co.uk/service/cookie-policy-a6184186.html) and [Privacy notice.](https://www.independent.co.uk/service/privacy-policy-a6184181.html) So it cannot be equated to as the same.” [Privacy policy](https://policies.google.com/privacy?hl=en) and [Terms of service](https://policies.google.com/terms?hl=en) apply. “He looked at me, and he’s just like [right],” Meghan recalled. [ reflected on her estranged father](https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/prince-harry-prince-charles-tabloid-meghan-markle-b2154963.html), Thomas Markle, and said it “doesn’t have to be the same” for [Prince Harry](/topic/prince-harry) and Prince Charles. [told the MailOnline](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11159869/EXCLUSIVE-Nelson-Mandelas-grandson-slams-Meghan-Markle.html): “Madiba’s celebration was based on overcoming 350 years of colonialism with 60 years of a brutal apartheid regime in South Africa. [Meghan Markle](/topic/meghan-markle)’s claim that people in South Africa “rejoiced in the streets” after her marriage to the Duke of Sussex has “surprised” [Nelson Mandela](/topic/nelson-mandela)’s grandson, Zwelivelile Mandela.

Meghan, Duchess of Sussex returned with the second episode of her "Archetypes" podcast this week, this time featuring a conversation with Mariah Carey.

You're not treated as a White woman. "You're not treated as a Black woman. "I always thought it should be OK to say I'm mixed," Carey said. "Like it should be OK to say that. Its release comes two years after Spotify announced an Meghan referenced an interview she had read in which actress Halle Berry had noted that because she was darker in color, she was treated as a Black woman, not as a biracial woman.

The Duchess of Sussex and the GRAMMY-winning singer had a chat during episode 2 of the 'Archetypes' podcast.

I heard it as the word diva, as I think of it. I just kept thinking in that moment, 'Was my girl crush coming to a quick demise? I'm like, when I can, I'm gonna give you diva.” It's not OK for you to be a strong woman, you know what I mean?” she added. She meant diva as a compliment, but I heard it as a dig. I was glad I bought the word glamorize and fabulous and whatever. Carey, 53, noted, “It’s the visual. "I do because, I mean, I know the origin of the word. You wouldn't maybe get as much divas too." [Meghan Markle](https://www.etonline.com/people/meghan-markle)’s conversation with one of entertainment’s biggest “divas” took a deeper look at the word. Like, it's not OK for you to be a boss. Meghan Markle Makes Royal Confessions With Mariah Carey on 'Arch…

The Duchess of Sussex was joined in conversation by multi-Grammy award winning artist Mariah Carey.

Then I started to understand what it was like to be treated like a Black woman. She recalls a moment from the 2019 London premiere of the live-action version of The Lion King. “You’re not treated as a Black woman. You’re not treated as a white woman. Because up until then, I had been treated like a mixed woman. But it was the conversation about both of their mixed race or biracial identities that got most of the internet talking on Tuesday.

It doesn't have to be the same for them as it was for me, but that's his decision.” Though many suspected this quote to be about Harry and his relationship to ...

[Finding Freedom: Harry and Meghan and the Making of a Modern Royal Family](https://www.amazon.com/dp/0063046105?tag=stylecaster0d-20&asc_source=web&asc_campaign=web&asc_refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstylecaster.com%2Fmeghan-markle-prince-harry-prince-charles%2F). Consisting of interviews and accounts with Harry and Meghan’s closest confidants, Finding Freedom is a must-read for any royal follower. [Finding Freedom](https://www.amazon.com/dp/0063046105?tag=stylecaster0d-20&asc_source=web&asc_campaign=web&asc_refurl=https%3A%2F%2Fstylecaster.com%2Fmeghan-markle-prince-harry-prince-charles%2F) The Duchess of Sussex talked about her relationship with her own dad that a lot of people mistook for Harry and Charles’ relationship. [return to social media](https://stylecaster.com/meghan-markle-back-instagram/). The photos ranged from images of him working out, studying from a book entitled “Images of Great Britain: A Pictorial Tour Through History,” and attending a tuxedo fitting.

Meghan Markle and Mariah Carey discussed their experiences as mixed-race women on the duchess' new podcast, Archetypes.